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Friday, December 4, 2015

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NIE WIEDER KRIEG Frieden mit Russland--Berlin











NIE WIEDER KRIEG Frieden mit Russland--Berlin (detail)








"WAR NEVER AGAIN
Peace with Russia

In war, the truth dies first. Key informative media:"



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13 comments:

Unknown said...

Linh:

Thanks very much for providing this informative picture! I go to Justin Raimondo's Antiwar.com on daily basis.

An encouraging sign here in Scranton...today's The Times-Tribune newspaper provided an OP-Ed by "Guest Columnist" Glenn Greenwald, titled, "Spooks distribute fear, blame." I think it's too late for the ubiquitous CIA "Thought Control" process to be violated, but better late than never?

Rudy said...

Hi Chuck,

I wish I could share your optimism.

Ian Keenan said...

Just this morning I was taking the bus from Philly to NYC and a guy in his twenties sits next to me, seems to have a slight accent and I ask him where he's from. Germany Where in Germany East I guessed Leipzig but he said 'about an hour from Leipzig' so I guessed Dresden and was right. I once met someone in South Jersey and guessed he was from Hanoi, this has become a hobby. Anyway he got right into how he was upset by anti-immigration demonstrations in Dresden and mentioned 'troubling comparisons' and we talked about immigration in different countries for over a half hour, then got into the Syrian war, Ukrainian war, and his parent's life in the GDR and after the wall fell. The guy had a lot of background knowledge on every topic and loved to talk, and projected a sincere concern for Syrian immigrants. He discussed the Turkey-Russia conflict but had to be led kicking and screaming into the idea it was a proxy war. He said 80-90% of the killing was done by Assad, and he showed me his source on his phone and I wrote it down. When we got to Ukraine, he blamed everything I mean everything on Putin. I threw in counter arguments but let him go through his talking points. Even when I said that the Maiden movement could have just waited for elections the next year, he just blamed more stuff on Putin. He had several rebuttals against the idea that Russian speaking Ukrainians preferred the Russian sphere of influence. He then started saying that there were pro-Putin signs and elements in neo-Nazi anti-immigration demonstrations in Germany and also in Front National (Le Pen) demonstrations in France. He said he was impressed by how hard Americans work and that Germans take it for granted that they can take time off. He said he wondered why Germany did so well after losing the war but I said the Germans always did well since the trade routes went up from Italy to be loaded off for Britain, the Hanseatic League and all that, I forgot to mention that they were smart. I brought that poll I saw about how Germans were getting angry at the US because of the Assange and Snowden cases, and he mentioned the spying in Germany but he was not that interested in the subject.

Ian Keenan said...

one of the interesting things he said was that he thought that during the Cold War, Russia's relations with NATO were more structured, coordinated, and diplomatic than they are today, and he thought that was troubling. Of course he blames Putin.

Linh Dinh said...

Hi Ian,

Though sounding so humanitarian, the man doesn't see that Germany is contributing to the refugee crisis. If you care about Syrians, then you shouldn't try to destroy their government and country. You shouldn't bomb them. His thinking is typical of many soft thinking liberals.

Meanwhile, "Germany will deploy up to 1,200 troops to the Middle East as part of a multi-million euro mission to support the fight against Isis after the plans were approved by MPs."


Linh

Rudy said...

Ian,

“The guy had a lot of background knowledge on every topic”

So do you. I am very impressed.

I had to look up the Hanseatic League, and now I’m wondering what “and all that” extends to.

Thanks.

Rudy

Ian Keenan said...

Linh I didn't ask what the guy did but he said he was going to a meeting, casually dressed.. he could have been in business but may be an NGO worker whose whole worldview was typical of Western NGO workers I've encountered. He had a way of sounding like the caring one, speaking out against scapegoating (an English word I think I taught him, though he knew 'proxy war' and presumed to know 'euphemism') while scapegoating enemies of NATO. He was definitely invested in the US-German relationship and his field and ambitions were in that area.

Hi Rudy, I was just noting how the German kingdoms benefited geographically from shipping and land routes through Europe from Medieval times forward and the cultural exchange and economy grew incrementally from there.

Linh Dinh said...

Hi Ian,

These correct stances and opinions make many people feel good about themselves, so it's really a kind of narcissism and self therapy, it's all about them. As long as they can feel good, correct and cool, they don't care that they're actually advocates for mass murder and mass suffering. Just think of the many self-indulgent, masturbatory leftists you know who are grotesquely selfish and self-centered, though they always talk about collectivism and the masses.


Linh

Ian Keenan said...

Linh, In Marx's time there were a lot of typists who fixated on their own ideological self-definition, implying that problems resulted from a violation of that scripture, without subjecting current events and history to the exhaustive, original analysis that Marx employed, one of the reasons he got his name on that strain and they were forgotten. There are a more than a few of those myopia cases today as always. Whatever conclusions or affiliations you settle on you can never be accused of that.

I was just reading Bergson's def of 'an ABSOLUTE movement, I am attributing to the moving object of the interior and, so to speak, states of mind. I also imply that I am in sympathy with those states, and that I insert in them by an effort of imagination.' Love Like Hate is an example of a novel that is excruciatingly personal without accompanying narcissism with revisionism or romanticized ideology or identity.
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On one of my night jobs (I try not to write about them, and on other people's comments that don't come up on my google) I was supposed to check in vendors deliveries and hadn't really figured out the system yet, but was pressed into duty for the fthe first time when the assistant manager, a high strung elderly from depford nj, didn t want to check in a vendor, referred to as Russian, that hit on all the females with graphic imagery, including her. He looks Russian but I got talking to him and he turned out the be a Muslim Azerbaijani from Baku with a lot of DNA from the colonists from the North. THe only time he talked dirty with me was when I put in a wrong code once and got 'what's wrong Ian, thinking about humping your girlfriend.' I got him going on geopolitical rants and he would go on non- stop punctuating his paragrapahs with 'they're just KISSING PUTIN's BUTT!" This i took as a combo of US assimilation and the old national struggle with the Russian invaders, in which he was switching spheres of influence. He was strident on the territorial disputes with Armenia, implying that Armenia had no rights to the land, never lived there (I never asked how the Armenian churches got there), and provoked all unnecessary conflicts. I later found out that despite his condescending view of Armenians, clearly spelled out in various ways, he had an Armenian wife, likely a virgin on his wedding night, but he apparently feels at leisure to share his concupiscence with the impure infidels outside that. Then once after the Ukrainian situation got bad he had switched sides again and started railing about US imperialism in the Warsaw Pact regions in loud, animated fashion that numerous bystanders could hear. Kissing Putin's butt was suddenly no longer the problem. He punctuated his rant this time with "it's really bad!! It's really bad!!" trying to get a reaction from me.

Linh Dinh said...

Yo Ian,

First of, I'm very glad you've read Love Like Hate. I'm always astounded to hear anyone has read that damn book!

I'd love to read a fuller portrait of the Azerbaijani. As for sharing his horniness with "impure infidels," displacement can certainly unleash social constraints. Just think of how weird many people can act when they travel.

A story in the Sidney Morning Herald, "Malaysian diplomat Muhammad Rizalman defecated outside woman's house as part of 'black magic."

Being in New Zealand liberated this guy.


Linh

Ian Keenan said...

'displacement can certainly unleash social constraints' was one of the main themes of DH Lawrence, but that was in a more innocent time when as many people had not done so, though the efffect on local economies has been extreme as far back as history goes. The change is not unrelated to the overall course of travel writitng, inspiring Claude Levi Strauss and others to say he hated the stuff.

I'm not much into Lawrence but I googled and found a book "D.H. Lawrence's Border Crossing builds upon developments within postcolonial theory to argue for a reconsideration of the concept of "spirit of place" in D. H. Lawrence's travel books and "leadership" novels - works that record Lawrence's various encounters with racial and geographical "others." Exploring his relationship to colonialism, Dr. Oh shows how Lawrence's belief in different "spirits" belonging to these disparate places enables him to transcend the hierarchies between metropolis and colony, between civilized and "primitive" worlds"

Lermontov I'm into and he didn't get to Azerbaijan (nor have I) but he owns the whole area by fuel emissions imho. His irony is still schockingly post-modern. Like I couldn't think of injecting my own perceptions of the guy with so many ruses about my own perceptions, which I subconsiously assume is the standard for characters from that neck of the woods. Otar Iosseliani in movieland has his own ironic take on the region.

Linh Dinh said...

Hi Ian,

For once, you may have erred! "The poet repeatedly visited the Caucasus and Azerbaijan. These journeys helped the poet to become acquainted with the peoples of the Caucasus, its nature, and rich folklore."

Linh

Ian Keenan said...

oh wow he got all the way down there. That was a long haul back then. 'for once' was nice. He definitely would have had a field day with this milk vendor from Baku! I like how the folks in Baku adore him, like they can take a joke. Russian Caucasus named awards after him.