Uh, Linh, don't be played for a sucker by these Catalanistas. (Or whoever is in the shadows pulling the strings on all this.)
First of all, the Catalans are not some sort of oppressed people with any significant real grievances. The whole notion that the Spanish police, army, etc. within Catalonia constitute some sort of illegitimate, oppressive force -- this is really looney tune stuff. People the world over would love to be illegitimately occupied by such a force!
Second of all, any national government in Europe would have a pretty extreme reaction to this kind of stunt, where the local politicians pass a law in their regional parliament saying that they're going to hold a referendum (organizing it and phrasing the wording of the question themselves, of course, to maximize the chances of getting the result they want) and if they somehow get 51% of the votes, then they are going to unilaterally declare themselves a sovereign State.
Third, these Catalanists are a bunch of phonies anyway. They have this whole oppositional stance towards Madrid and zero discourse about Euro Central Bank or NATO or any of the real problem. This article on Global Research reflects some of my thinking on that:
As for the Spanish cops cracking heads here, I wasn't there at any of the polling places (I should have gone to look) but I think in the next few days we should be attentive as to how real all these incidents are. (I honestly don't know.) But, regardless, if they really were cracking some heads, it might well be right and proper. The Yanukovitch government in Ukraine was far too passive with these Maidan color revolution "protestors".
But that there really seems to be an agenda to destabilize Spain. These local Catalanist politicians are not any sort of real anti-system people that you or I should feel any solidarity with. I have lived many years in Catalonia and I have about zero sympathy with these people. Though, that said, one of my best friends here is an avid Catalanista. You didn't meet him. Some long-time residents do develop a sympathy for the Catalanist position, but I find that these people are invariably quite naive politically.
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Uh, Linh, don't be played for a sucker by these Catalanistas. (Or whoever is in the shadows pulling the strings on all this.)
First of all, the Catalans are not some sort of oppressed people with any significant real grievances. The whole notion that the Spanish police, army, etc. within Catalonia constitute some sort of illegitimate, oppressive force -- this is really looney tune stuff. People the world over would love to be illegitimately occupied by such a force!
Second of all, any national government in Europe would have a pretty extreme reaction to this kind of stunt, where the local politicians pass a law in their regional parliament saying that they're going to hold a referendum (organizing it and phrasing the wording of the question themselves, of course, to maximize the chances of getting the result they want) and if they somehow get 51% of the votes, then they are going to unilaterally declare themselves a sovereign State.
Third, these Catalanists are a bunch of phonies anyway. They have this whole oppositional stance towards Madrid and zero discourse about Euro Central Bank or NATO or any of the real problem. This article on Global Research reflects some of my thinking on that:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/catalonia-independence-five-things-to-think-about/5611607
As for the Spanish cops cracking heads here, I wasn't there at any of the polling places (I should have gone to look) but I think in the next few days we should be attentive as to how real all these incidents are. (I honestly don't know.) But, regardless, if they really were cracking some heads, it might well be right and proper. The Yanukovitch government in Ukraine was far too passive with these Maidan color revolution "protestors".
But that there really seems to be an agenda to destabilize Spain. These local Catalanist politicians are not any sort of real anti-system people that you or I should feel any solidarity with. I have lived many years in Catalonia and I have about zero sympathy with these people. Though, that said, one of my best friends here is an avid Catalanista. You didn't meet him. Some long-time residents do develop a sympathy for the Catalanist position, but I find that these people are invariably quite naive politically.
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